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			<title><![CDATA[President Reagan's view on Shroud of Turin gets backing]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:41:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*Setting the stage:* 


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*President Reagan's thoughts about the Shroud makes post-moderns cringe!* ...]]></description>
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				<a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%74%68%65%73%68%72%6f%75%64%6f%66%74%75%72%69%6e%2e%62%6c%6f%67%73%70%6f%74%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%32%30%30%37%2f%30%37%2f%73%68%72%6f%75%64%2d%6e%65%77%73%2d%6a%75%6c%79%2d%32%30%30%37%2e%68%74%6d%6c" target="_blank"><b>President Reagan's thoughts about the Shroud makes post-moderns cringe!</b> </a><a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%62%6c%6f%67%63%72%69%74%69%63%73%2e%6f%72%67%2f%61%72%63%68%69%76%65%73%2f%32%30%30%37%2f%30%37%2f%32%37%2f%31%39%32%34%30%30%2e%70%68%70" target="_blank">Book Review: The Reagan Diaries - The White House from 1981 to 1989</a>, <i>Blogcritics</i> [<a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%67%2d%65%63%32%2e%69%6d%61%67%65%73%2d%61%6d%61%7a%6f%6e%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%69%6d%61%67%65%73%2f%49%2f%34%31%36%4a%54%38%72%73%70%4a%4c%2e%5f%41%41%32%34%30%5f%2e%6a%70%67" target="_blank">Right</a>: <a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77%2e%61%6d%61%7a%6f%6e%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%52%65%61%67%61%6e%2d%44%69%61%72%69%65%73%2d%52%6f%6e%61%6c%64%2f%64%70%2f%30%30%36%30%38%37%36%30%30%58" target="_blank">Amazon.com</a>] <i>magazine</i>, Alessandro Nicolo, July 27, 2007. The reviewer notes that the late President Reagan:<blockquote>&quot;...  thought the `Shroud of Turin' was proof of the bodily ascension. ...  Indeed, this sort of ... thinking would make most post-modern  individuals cringe, but to Reagan it made perfect sense.&quot;</blockquote>It  never seems to occur to such &quot;post-modern individuals&quot; that those of  us, like President Reagan, who consider the Shroud of Turin to be  extra-Biblical &quot;proof of the bodily ascension&quot; of Jesus <i>could actually be right</i>!
			
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				<b><a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77%2e%77%6e%64%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%69%6e%64%65%78%2e%70%68%70%3f%66%61%3d%50%41%47%45%2e%76%69%65%77%26%61%6d%70%3b%70%61%67%65%49%64%3d%31%39%39%30%31%33" target="_blank">Shroud a 'radiation photo' of resurrection?</a></b><br />
Scientists are building the  case that the image of a crucified man on the Shroud of Turin was  <b>created by radiation that emanated from the body itself</b>, a theory  remarkably supportive of the <u>traditional resurrection account</u> that is  central to Christian theology.  <br />
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A scientific paper co-authored by attorney and historian Mark  Antonacci and physicist Arthur Lind argues that the image of the  crucified man in Shroud of Turin might constitute what amounts <u>to a  photograph taken at the instant Jesus' body transformed as he rose from  the dead</u>. <br />
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In the paper, &quot;Particle Radiation from the Body,&quot; Antonacci's and Lind's  argument centers around the 29 unique or unusual features that  scientists over the past four decades have found on the Shroud's body  image and fiber.   
			
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(<i>See Article </i><b><a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77%2e%77%6e%64%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%69%6e%64%65%78%2e%70%68%70%3f%66%61%3d%50%41%47%45%2e%76%69%65%77%26%61%6d%70%3b%70%61%67%65%49%64%3d%31%39%39%30%31%33" target="_blank">Link</a></b><i> for Full Show</i>)<br />
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				&quot;This means that the source of light does not originate outside of  the body, the cloth or the tomb, but with the body itself,&quot; they write.  &quot;The weave of the inner part of the cloth containing the frontal and  dorsal images is note even part of the distinctive images, which they  too, would have been, if the light came from anywhere outside the body.&quot;  <br />
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Antonacci and Lind ask, &quot;What if the <u>man's body became  insubstantial or dematerialized instantly leaving behind some energy</u> in  the form of the basic particles of matter, such as protons, neutrons and  electromagnetic waves, such as gamma rays?&quot;  <br />
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They answer that the part of the <u>cloth that was originally  closest to the body would have received the most radiation</u>, while the  part originally farthest away would have received the least &#8211; a  phenomenon that &quot;<b>would result in true three dimensional information being encoded onto the two dimensional cloth,&quot; precisely as is found on the Shroud</b>.  
			
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			<title>UN-believable...</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 04:47:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>this first article (of three) is from the UK:
 
 
*Barack Obama bows before the UN over Arizona immigration law*
Nile Gardiner 8-31-10
 
There can be...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>this first article (of three) is from the UK:<br />
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<b><font size="3">Barack Obama bows before the UN over Arizona immigration law</font></b><br />
<i>Nile Gardiner 8-31-10</i><br />
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There can be few sights more humiliating for the American people than that of a US president kowtowing to a foreign leader or to supranational institutions. Continental Europeans are used to this sort of thing after decades of dominance by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, and have grudgingly accepted over time the gradual and undemocratic erosion of their freedoms. <b>But most Americans fiercely defend their national sovereignty, and find the idea of giving international organisations a say over their laws and lives completely unacceptable.</b><br />
The Obama administration however has submitted <a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77%2e%73%74%61%74%65%2e%67%6f%76%2f%64%6f%63%75%6d%65%6e%74%73%2f%6f%72%67%61%6e%69%7a%61%74%69%6f%6e%2f%31%34%36%33%37%39%2e%70%64%66" target="_blank"><font color="black">a report</font></a> to the UN Commissioner on Human Rights, <a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77%2e%6f%68%63%68%72%2e%6f%72%67%2f%45%4e%2f%41%62%6f%75%74%55%73%2f%50%61%67%65%73%2f%48%69%67%68%43%6f%6d%6d%69%73%73%69%6f%6e%65%72%2e%61%73%70%78" target="_blank"><font color="black">South African judge Navanethem Pillay</font></a>, which makes direct reference to a popular Arizona immigration law aimed at tackling illegal immigration, which is fiercely opposed by the White House, and is the subject of legal action by the Justice Department. The report references &#8220;A recent Arizona law...<br />
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<b>The highly controversial reference to the Arizona law serves only one purpose &#8211; to gain UN and international support for the Obama administration&#8217;s position in the face of mounting opposition from Arizona legislators and a majority of the American people.</b> <a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77%2e%72%61%73%6d%75%73%73%65%6e%72%65%70%6f%72%74%73%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%70%75%62%6c%69%63%5f%63%6f%6e%74%65%6e%74%2f%70%6f%6c%69%74%69%63%73%2f%63%75%72%72%65%6e%74%5f%65%76%65%6e%74%73%2f%69%6d%6d%69%67%72%61%74%69%6f%6e%2f%35%36%5f%6f%70%70%6f%73%65%5f%6a%75%73%74%69%63%65%5f%64%65%70%61%72%74%6d%65%6e%74%5f%63%68%61%6c%6c%65%6e%67%65%5f%6f%66%5f%61%72%69%7a%6f%6e%61%5f%6c%61%77%5f%36%31%5f%66%61%76%6f%72%5f%73%69%6d%69%6c%61%72%5f%6c%61%77%5f%69%6e%5f%74%68%65%69%72%5f%73%74%61%74%65" target="_blank"><font color="black">A recent Rasmussen poll</font></a> showed 61 percent of Americans backing Arizona-style laws for their own states, and just 28 percent supporting a Justice Department challenge .<br />
By doing so, Obama officials undoubtedly hope to stir up international condemnation of the Arizona policy in advance of the UN General Assembly meetings in September, which they believe will increase pressure on Arizona to back down.<b> It is a highly cynical move that speaks volumes about the Obama team&#8217;s willingness to undercut American sovereignty and popular will on the world stage....</b><br />
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<i><a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%62%6c%6f%67%73%2e%74%65%6c%65%67%72%61%70%68%2e%63%6f%2e%75%6b%2f%6e%65%77%73%2f%6e%69%6c%65%67%61%72%64%69%6e%65%72%2f%31%30%30%30%35%31%38%38%32%2f%62%61%72%61%63%6b%2d%6f%62%61%6d%61%2d%62%6f%77%73%2d%62%65%66%6f%72%65%2d%74%68%65%2d%75%6e%2d%6f%76%65%72%2d%61%72%69%7a%6f%6e%61%2d%69%6d%6d%69%67%72%61%74%69%6f%6e%2d%6c%61%77%2f" target="_blank"><font size="1">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100051882/barack-obama-bows-before-the-un-over-arizona-immigration-law/</font></a></i><br />
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<b>:toocool: :rolleyes2: Hint - fanfare !!</b> :raisedeyebrow: - even the Brits are getting it!! Not all too amazing is the anger of the AZ governor! :scream: <br />
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<b><font size="3"><i>Arizona Gov. Brewer throws a fit about UN Human Rights Report</i></font></b><br />
<i>Examiner.com-Chicago</i><br />
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A US State Department report to the United Nations on human rights contained a reference to Arizona's recent controversial illegal immigrant law and Arizona Governor Jan Brewer is protesting it. The State Department listed its opposition to the Arizona law as an example of upholding human rights in the US.<br />
<b>On Friday, Brewer demanded, in a </b><a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%6a%61%6e%62%72%65%77%65%72%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%75%70%6c%6f%61%64%73%2f%30%38%2d%32%37%2d%31%30%25%32%30%4c%65%74%74%65%72%25%32%30%74%6f%25%32%30%53%65%63%72%65%74%61%72%79%25%32%30%43%6c%69%6e%74%6f%6e%2e%70%64%66" target="_blank"><font color="black"><b>letter</b></font></a><b> to Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton that the reference to Arizona and it's new law be removed from the report.</b> The report is part of a UN review of human rights in which all member nations submit progress reports every four years. <br />
Brewer wrote, &#8220;The idea of our own American government submitting the duly enacted laws of a state of the United States to &#8216;review&#8217; by the United Nations is <b>internationalism run amok and unconstitutional</b>.&#8221;...<br />
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<div align="left"><b><font size="3">State Department Stands By Decision to Include Arizona in U.N. Human Rights Report</font></b><br />
<i>Fox News 8-30-10</i></div> <br />
<div align="left">The State Department included a Justice Department lawsuit against Arizona's immigration law into a United Nations human rights report to show how U.S. rule of law can be <b>an example to the world</b>, a State Department spokesman said Monday.<i>..</i><br />
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<i>...</i>Arizona Republican state Sen. Frank Antenorri told Fox News on Monday that he thinks it is an insult to the American people, who overwhelmingly support the state's right to enforce the law, to include Arizona in the report...</div>...&quot;Name a human rights violation. Name it,&quot; Antenorri demanded of the Obama administration.&quot;Tell the people of this country where in this U.N. report you are defining a human rightsviolation occurring in the state of Arizona. <b>It's garbage,&quot; he said, adding, &quot;I find it comical to kowtow to dictators in this global effort to demonize the United States....</b><br />
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<font size="4">MAY THE VOTERS DECIDE</font> :salute2: <br />
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			<title>On taxes...</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:13:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*Senate Debate Looms on Tax Cuts for Rich*
*By Jackie Calmes*
 
NY Times 8-4-10
 
WASHINGTON &#8212; Senate leaders said Wednesday that debate would...]]></description>
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<b>By Jackie Calmes</b><br />
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<font size="1">NY Times 8-4-10</font><br />
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WASHINGTON &#8212; Senate leaders said Wednesday that debate would most likely begin in September over whether to let the Bush income tax cuts for the rich expire at the end of this year as scheduled, setting up a new battle just weeks before the midterm elections.<br />
Nervousness among politically vulnerable Democrats had led some in the party to predict that Congress would not take up the issue until after the elections, in a lame-duck session. But partisan lines have already been forming. Republicans, emboldened by <a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%74%6f%70%69%63%73%2e%6e%79%74%69%6d%65%73%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%74%6f%70%2f%72%65%66%65%72%65%6e%63%65%2f%74%69%6d%65%73%74%6f%70%69%63%73%2f%70%65%6f%70%6c%65%2f%6f%2f%62%61%72%61%63%6b%5f%6f%62%61%6d%61%2f%69%6e%64%65%78%2e%68%74%6d%6c%3f%69%6e%6c%69%6e%65%3d%6e%79%74%2d%70%65%72" target="_blank"><font color="black">President Obama</font></a>&#8217;s slipping support in the polls, charge that Democrats are advocating a big tax increase...<br />
...For now it is <a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%74%6f%70%69%63%73%2e%6e%79%74%69%6d%65%73%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%74%6f%70%2f%72%65%66%65%72%65%6e%63%65%2f%74%69%6d%65%73%74%6f%70%69%63%73%2f%6f%72%67%61%6e%69%7a%61%74%69%6f%6e%73%2f%74%2f%74%72%65%61%73%75%72%79%5f%64%65%70%61%72%74%6d%65%6e%74%2f%69%6e%64%65%78%2e%68%74%6d%6c%3f%69%6e%6c%69%6e%65%3d%6e%79%74%2d%6f%72%67" target="_blank"><font color="black">Treasury</font></a> Secretary <a href="http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%74%6f%70%69%63%73%2e%6e%79%74%69%6d%65%73%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%74%6f%70%2f%72%65%66%65%72%65%6e%63%65%2f%74%69%6d%65%73%74%6f%70%69%63%73%2f%70%65%6f%70%6c%65%2f%67%2f%74%69%6d%6f%74%68%79%5f%66%5f%67%65%69%74%68%6e%65%72%2f%69%6e%64%65%78%2e%68%74%6d%6c%3f%69%6e%6c%69%6e%65%3d%6e%79%74%2d%70%65%72" target="_blank"><font color="black">Timothy F. Geithner</font></a> who has emerged as the point man in the <b>administration&#8217;s offensive to let the high-end tax cuts expire</b>...<br />
... <b>he dismissed as &#8220;myths&#8221; Republican arguments that tax cuts pay for themselves, by bringing in new revenues from economic growth</b>, and that small businesses would be hurt...<br />
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