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10-15-2008, 05:06 PM
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Will tonight be the night?
McCain needs to show the world his spunky side tonight and reem Nobama.
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10-15-2008, 05:14 PM
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I don't think it is going to happen. McCain is going to try and just be a "uniter" and that is why the Republican party is in trouble with the voters now. They have put a gag order on Palin (the Conservative running on the ticket) and they wonder why the elections are close and the nation is divided.
We need a true Conservative to run and truth be told, McCain is in trouble because he is not a Conservative. This election should not even be close, but because the Republican party lost its spine we are stuck with having to endure life in the middle of the road. Very sad indeed.
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10-15-2008, 06:50 PM
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Well said, Dutch.
Its been my feeling as well. Middle-of-the-Road Republicans tend to get run over and deservedly so.
I really hope to see more of Palin on the national scene after this election.
McCain says he's a "Reagan Republican". I think he's confused. The only "Reagan Republican" on the ticket is Palin.
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10-15-2008, 06:55 PM
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I don't hold that much hope for the debate tonight either. At best, McCain will have to pull out all the stops and very carefully peg Obama using all his associations - point out how his credibility is diminished after having surrounded himself not just with Bill Ayers, but everyone else. Unfortunately, Obama is a spin-master and he'll probably put poor McCain through the grinder if he tries to do that - McCain is not as quick on his feet as Obama is, nor as eloquent (which seems to be enough to delude and fool people, sadly. Style over substance).
I've heard tell that McCain might actually try to say, "You know, I'm sorry everyone. I shouldn't focus on Ayers or Obama's associates, and I've made mistakes in the past. But I want to move forward and help the American people, and here's my plan..."
FOX News is saying that the Obama camp would have a hard time with that one. Personally, I don't see how falling over and playing dead does anything but herald defeat.
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10-15-2008, 07:05 PM
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The pendulum.
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Originally Posted by Dutch
I don't think it is going to happen. McCain is going to try and just be a "uniter" and that is why the Republican party is in trouble with the voters now. They have put a gag order on Palin (the Conservative running on the ticket) and they wonder why the elections are close and the nation is divided.
We need a true Conservative to run and truth be told, McCain is in trouble because he is not a Conservative. This election should not even be close, but because the Republican party lost its spine we are stuck with having to endure life in the middle of the road. Very sad indeed.
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I agree with you for the most part, but coming off of the heels of the Bush admin. it would be tough for any individual running on a Republican ticket this time around. I fully expect McCain to be hammering away about the Ayres issue because Obama directly challenged him since the last debate by saying if you want to bring up Ayres then do it to my face, well McCain is a warrior so you can look for that to happen big time. Obama also claimed on his website that he has or had nothing to with Acorn when he in fact represented them in court and this year gave them $800,000.00. He may or may not hammer away on the Rev. Wright issue, I know I would, these things are fair game. McCain also needs to let Americans know that they are fair game. It is not dirty politics when you call a Presidential candidate on his relationship with an unrepentant domestic terrorist.
I think McCain will be dosile on some issues, but not others and I do think he will narrow the gap simply because this thing changes every week and it is time for the pendulum to swing back towards McCain, I am looking for a late surge. Honestly it is playing out about the way I thought it would months ago.
McCain has never, ever changed what he wanted to do or what he would do, for years he has been arguing with Bush about how he wanted to do things. He needs to let Americans know this as well, Obama will continue to try and tie them together because thats all he has. He has nothing of substance on McCain, if you notice he tries and tries to tie the two together, he did the first two debates and will tonight, because thats all he's got. Most Americans are just to stupid to figure out his game.
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10-15-2008, 07:12 PM
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I think McCain will be dosile on some issues, but not others and I do think he will narrow the gap simply because this thing changes every week and it is time for the pendulum to swing back towards McCain, I am looking for a late surge. Honestly it is playing out about the way I thought it would months ago.
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That's a good point. People have been talking about Obama 'peaking' too soon and I'm hoping it turns out to be true. McCain still has three weeks to go and I'm convinced at this point that anything can happen to change the game. (I mean really, take a look at everything that's happened this year. Isn't it crazy?)
Regardless of how things go tonight, we should all pray for McCain so that he does well not only in this debate, but also in the entire election these coming weeks.
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10-15-2008, 07:16 PM
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McCain is hanging in pretty tough when you consider just how low Bush's approval ratings have sunk. What is it now, 23 percent? and if that wasn't enough of a drag, the housing bubble bursts and the market tanked. You can argue that McCain isn't the most conservative guy, but if he goes down in defeat it wont be for that reason.
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10-15-2008, 07:21 PM
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McCain is hanging in pretty tough when you consider just how low Bush's approval ratings have sunk. What is it now, 23 percent? and if that wasn't enough of a drag, the housing bubble bursts and the market tanked. You can argue that McCain isn't the most conservative guy, but if he goes down in defeat it wont be for that reason.
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Don't forget Congress' approval rating.  Bush may be low but he's not the bottom of the food chain right now!
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10-15-2008, 07:41 PM
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That's a good point. People have been talking about Obama 'peaking' too soon ...
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That's what I heard Michelle say.
Sorry, had to add a little levity.
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10-16-2008, 12:47 AM
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That's what I heard Michelle say.
Sorry, had to add a little levity.
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Great Ando, awesome!! I know I heard her say one day that Barack stinks, has a foul odor. Now we know she has a stinky guy with no staying power. Man, your post had me laughin.
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