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Liberalism Vs. Conservatism (Debate Forum) It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan

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Old 07-12-2012, 02:23 AM
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US Flag A great ray of hope from Paul Ryan on Mark Levin's show still begs many questions!

I found Rep. Paul Ryan's segment on the Mark Levin show tonight to be one of the most hopeful and positive things I've heard in quite a while about our chances of flushing ObamaCare down the toilet - at least 85% of it - through the process of budget reconciliation which can't be filibustered, according to Ryan, and which only requires 51 votes for passage in the senate.

If you wish to listen to this portion of Mark Levin's show, The Right Scoop website has it posted tonight at the following address:
http://www.therightscoop.com/paul-ryan-we-can-definitely-repeal-at-least-85-of-obamacare-via-reconciliation/

Even Mark Levin was apparently caught off guard by what Rep. Paul Ryan had to say about how relatively simple it would be to get rid of this insanity.

Of course, the caveats in all of this is that it would require the Republicans/Conservatives holding onto the House and even adding to their numbers and it would require the Republicans/Conservatives to take back the Senate from the Democrats.

Now if Obama is unfortunately re-elected, it would require veto-proof majorities in both the House and the Senate to pass a budget reconciliation bill which would rid us of 85% of ObamaCare, because Nero Obama would most assuredly veto such a bill and his veto would have to be over-ridden with 2/3's of the votes of each house in Congress to become law.

Now if Romney is elected, Rep. Paul Ryan says Romney has said to him that he will sign such a reconciliation bill if it reaches his desk and so it would then only require 51 votes to pass in the senate.

All of this begs a number of questions.

Clearly the Republicans had to have known that this was how they were going to repeal ObamaCare. Rep. Paul Ryan has said as much tonight. And they had to have known this for a long time since before the 2010 elections which brought republicans back in control of the house and almost got them control of the Senate but this is the first most of us are hearing about this plan. Clearly Mark Levin was caught off guard by it, happy all the same, but caught off guard nonetheless.

Why didn't the Republicans tell us something like this sooner, like before the 2010 elections when Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell's votes and the election in Alaska to fill the Senate seat there could have made all the difference in the world in getting this done a lot sooner?

Yet the GOP Big Whig elites actively opposed Sharron Angle's candidacy as well as Christine O'Donnell's and others to the detriment of our nation and causing Harry "the Body" Ried to stay in charge of the senate. And we're supposed to trust these people now should they return to power in the senate and in the White House?

I think what we need to do is concentrate on electing a veto-proof congress populated with as many hard-core conservative TEA Party types in both houses as possible regardless of who wins the presidency just to hedge our bets in case Obama wins or Romney wins and then proceeds to revert back to a Massachusetts liberal as soon as he takes the oath of office.

It seems that the prospect that 85% of Obamacare could be overturned with a simple budget reconciliation bill is the main reason why Ried has never brought a budget bill to the floor of the senate.

More than Obama we have to get rid of Harry Reid's control of the senate and do so with a veto-proof majority in the senate and with a veto-proof majority in the House.

This more than the presidential race should galvanize everyone to vote ultra-conservative TEA Party candidates into Congress this election.

For one thing, I think it has been interesting of late to see all these old GOP Big Whig Big Government Inside the Beltway types coming out of their crypts to show their faces on tv like John Sununu who stuck our nation with supreme court justice David Souter.

These are apparently the people whom Mitt Romney is turning to for advice while he barely speaks to TEA Party people. And these are the same GOP Big Whigs who've enabled the Democrats to do all the rotten things they've done to our nation over the years.

Taking back Congress from the Big Government elites in both parties has to be our rallying cry, has to be our main mission this election year so as to never let this nonsense happen again.

JohnCraven
New Orleans



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