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Old 06-26-2012, 11:36 PM
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US Flag Nero Obama's amnesty for young illegal aliens destroys jobs for black American teens

In all of the jobs statistics which show how miserable the job market is for everyone in Nero Plutarcho Obama's "Ameritopia", as Mark Levin would call it, the worst job prospects are for black American and Latin American teens who are here in this country legitimately, either having been born here or having come here when their parents brought them here legitimately.

Nero Plutarcho Obama's latest despotic mandate allowing a million or so illegal aliens to stay here without fear of deportation makes the job prospects of young black Americans and young Latin Americans go completely down the toilet.

Obama has single handedly destroyed any hope that young Americans, especially black teens and Latin teens, will ever find a job.

Why should any employer, including the federal government, hire any young American, minority or not, and pay them minimum wage and social security and other benefits, when they can simply hire on young illegal aliens who won't be deported by Nero Plutarcho Obama and hire them for far less than any young American can be hired for and not have to worry about the federal government looking into it.

This despotic decision by Nero Obama is a complete job killer for young black and Latin American teens who are here legitimately.

Sadly, we apparently don't have many Republicans, certainly none amongst the Big Whig GOP elites who can forcefully point this out to the American people.

Oh we have great conservatives like Mark Levin and Glenn Beck and sometimes Rush and every once in a while Hannity who accurately and courageously point this out to their listening and viewing audiences but where are Romney's ads pointing this out? His handlers, like Carl Rove, I guess don't want Romney to look like he's attacking Nero Obama for killing the job prospects of young Americans especially those for black and Latin teens who are here legitimately.

This is a great line of attack against Obama's dictatorial decisions about giving illegal aliens a pass to stay here but it is not being used by the GOP Big Whig standard bearer at all.

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Old 06-28-2012, 03:39 AM
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Why should any employer, including the federal government, hire any young American, minority or not, and pay them minimum wage and social security and other benefits, when they can simply hire on young illegal aliens who won't be deported ...

Sadly, we apparently don't have many Republicans, certainly none amongst the Big Whig GOP elites who can forcefully point this out to the American people...


Why?

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1) Empoyers can't necessarily hire illegals any longer these days - that's a good thing...
2) I am hoping that some of the folks in the back community are waking up and realizing the president's blatant pandering - i.e. - when election day comes around...
3) AZ continues to do what they have been doing!!
4) I am all for educating the public that there is a difference between the word legal and illegal - this has gotten entirely murky and political - and the jobless situation may help to do that ...

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Pragmatically speaking, how is giving jobs to illegal immigrants any different than outsourcing jobs overseas or abolishing the minimum wage? Either way, you take jobs away from a portion of Americans and lower wages considerably on the reasoning that this will lead to increased productivity and lower prices. There's no difference at all.
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What is the difference between legal and illegal - again?
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What is the difference between legal and illegal - again?
So this isn't really about protecting the jobs of poor Americans or helping economic growth; it's just butthurt over disobedient border runners.
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It's exactily about economic growth, because those disobedient border runners are dragging down the economies of our border states, as well as breaking the laws of our country while doing it. Hence legal versus illegal.
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So this isn't really about protecting the jobs of poor Americans or helping economic growth; it's just butthurt over disobedient border runners.

An illegal immigrant leaves their country to go to another country without having the proper requirements for them to migrate to the other country, while the legal immigrant went throughthe correct process and filings to leave his country to migrate to the other country legally.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_illegal_immigrant _and_legal_immigrant



Wondering about legal vs illegal in – say – Canada?



Life is challenging for illegal Immigrants

Countries like USA and Canada are in great demand by the citizens of third world nations and even the other nations too. For the people of such nations it is a dream to bein Canada. In spite of tight security at the borders, immigrants sneak into the country illegally.

After entering the nation they face challenges galore. Some of them have been mentioned below-

Medical facilities denied

Illegal immigrants are denied of any medical coverage by the government. Any illegal immigrant filing a case against any such issue loses the same as the FederalCourt denies any support to such immigrants.

Approximately 40,000 to 50,000 illegal immigrants are reported in Canada. In case of any emergency the patient is admitted and then he is asked to submit their provincial card number. In absence of this document, they are asked for private insurance and then a credit card.

In case none of the above mentioned documents are submitted by the immigrants then the department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada is informed and finally the person is deported from the nation.

Jobs denied

The illegal immigrants in Canada are denied of a job of good status. Most of the time they are found to be taking up jobs which are not proportionate to their skill oreducation. In order to survive they have to take up any job coming their way so that they can earn their living...

School Admission denied

Children of illegal immigrants face a social trauma too. They are denied admission to government run schools as the parent is expected to submit Social Identification Number before admitting his child...

Social Acceptance denied

Illegal Immigrants might face a rejection from their neighbours and peers when peoplecome to know about their illegitimate stay in the nation.

Illegal Immigrants face problems from all ends when they stay in a country beyond the legal regulations.

http://www.canadaupdates.com/content/life-challenging-illegal-immigrants-18334.html

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We urge Canadians to report any type of immigration or refugee fraud. Although it may not be too fashionable to talk about civic duty, it is important to realize that immigration fraud affects everyone in Canada. It is the responsibility of all Canadians to report people who are in Canada illegally, who are taking a job that legal Canadians might need, who are collecting social assistance or Employment Insurance illegally, who are violating other immigration laws...

http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/take-action/report-fraud/
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So this isn't really about protecting the jobs of poor Americans or helping economic growth; it's just butthurt over disobedient border runners.
Try the same thing they're doing in mexico. See you in two years after they catch you for their "butthurt over disobedient border running".
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