I'm never seeing a Tim Robbins movie again.

[Snake007x]

This jerk went and made a play titled <u>Embedded</u>. In this play he portrays embedded reporters as Pentagon Puppets, American soldiers as cold blooded murderers, and the President as some one trying to divert attention away from his problems with Enron.

What a load of propaganda bull****. He has no respect for the job our brave men and women do, and he thinks it's fun to kick them around and deliberately give the impression that they're evil. Robbins will never get 7 dollars from me again. He'll be lucky if he gets a baseball bat to the knee caps.

[sju_pol16]

Yeah, I saw that too. Just a flat out false picture of what went on.

I liked the actress they interviewed that said, "This isn't propoganda, this is dissent. Fox News is propoganda."

So knowingly portraying false images of the war isn't propoganda? Accurate information about the war from news sources is propoganda? Man, I have to go revise my dictionary, because liberals keep creating new definitions for words like this. It's hard to keep up.

I'm convinced Robbins is a communist. I don't think that about most liberals, but I'm sure with this guy. His play says the war was concocted to take attention away from corporate scandals. What a nutjob. Where's McCarthy when you need him?

[Hane]

Wait a minute! Tim Robbins wrote a play? That is funny. [img]graemlins/Laughing.gif[/img]

I saw this on FoxNews this morning. I thought Tim Robbins was an "actor". Next time he writes a play, he should pick a topic that permits him to write about personal experience.

Aside from moronic protests, I can't think of what that would be.

[Snake007x]

Apparently Robbins can string words together on paper. If Doctor Laura were really a Lesbian, and came out of the closet, it wouldn't be as shocking as this.

Maybe we should have a fund raiser on this website so we can get the cash to send Robbins to his favorite country 90 miles off the coast of Florida...via catapult.

[HeyLookThud]

Aside from you talking about Robbins, It sounded exactly what my gradfather n law was saying yesterday while we were watching Bush in Baghdad. The majority of my inlaws are conservative, so you can imagine the atmosphere around the dinner table when talking about this. WHOA it wasn't pretty lol..

[AnthonyR]

Why is it that in the times when we most need unity, the political left devises new ways to attack and oppose our government and our best interests? What the Bolshevik actors such as Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, and Johnny Depp are really protesting is the fact that they, and the liberals, hate President Bush, they also see a great majority of Americans firmly rejecting their leftist ideologies.

Over 100 Bolshevik celebrities once signed an open letter opposing military action in Iraq. Actor Sean Penn placed an ad in the Washington Post that criticized President Bush's war policy. Penn traveled to Baghdad to assess the situation for himself. Not surprisingly, Penn concluded that America, not Iraq, was to blame for the tensions between the two nations. No doubt Penn will trek to Pyongyang before next summer and reach a similar conclusion.

These leftist groups babble fear mongering tales about the Patriot Act and John Ashcroft’s DOJ; it is dangerous and Gestapo like, you would think John Ashcroft was the biggest threat to or national security according to these gargantuan intellects.
John Ashcroft’s DOJ has not ordered the killing of people in unjustified military raids like Reno did, and he never sent a swat team to take a terrified Cuban kid at gunpoint, only to throw him to the wolf Castro. I can’t say I have seen john ash crofts DOJ behave that irresponsibly just yet. Tim Robbins and his whining wife are among the worst offenders, Susan Sarandon was one at a protest singing “we shall overcome,” how disingenuous, overcome what? Bad seats at the academy awards.

[Snake007x]

I don't mind people opposing the war. One of my best friends who is a Liberal did. The problem is when they try to harm our country and it's image more specifically while we have people dying over seas. Something like Robbins play gives aid and comfort to those who hate us. I can never forgive him for that.

[Jon Alvarez]

Snake--I've felt that way since early 2003...That's why we started PABAAH! Join us! Spread the word. of the 140 anti-American celebs on our boycott list, guess how many have gone to Iraq to entertain with the USO? They won't support America, why should we support them?

ZERO!!!!!

http://www.PABAAH.com

[Snake007x]

I'm only boycotting people who harm our troops with their propaganda like Moore, Penn, etc.

[45semi]

Robbins is a lying, miserable SOB, walking talking piece of @ss-waste, and if I ever meet him in person, I will knock his teeth out!

But his play, "Embedded," profiles the journalists who traveled with and reported on U.S. soldiers in Iraq and features the president's war cabinet. It was written in Los Angeles and produced in Hollywood.

Robbins portrays journalists as Pentagon puppets, U.S. soldiers as thieves and killers of innocent women and children, and the Bush cabinet as war mongers willing to start a war to escape the negative publicity of the Enron scandal.

In production less than a month, the play received not one, but two glowing reviews from the Los Angeles Times. Robbins' audience appears to accept his version of the war as the gospel truth.

"It is not propaganda. It is a voice of dissent, which is different than propaganda," said audience member Kadina Dayal-Halday.

When Laura Israel, another audience member, was asked if she thought the play was accurate, she replied: "Yes, not only on what is going on there, but it also showed how we are being lied to by all the networks."

One person who wasn't convinced by the portrayals was Marine Maj. Rich Doherty.

"It was spun to make it look like that leadership started this war simply for its own political agenda … and that can't be further from the truth," Doherty said.

Doherty, who has a Ph.D. from Berkeley, fought in Iraq and worked alongside several embedded journalists. After the show, which Fox News was not allowed to tape, Doherty discussed the performance with some of the audience and cast members.

"You're not on the ground, there is no historical, no empirical evidence to say...that what you're believing or saying politically (is true)," Doherty said.

"With all due respect sir, a lot of people in this country feel this administration went to this war with an agenda of their own and this play resonates with a lot of people who come to see it," countered V.J. Foster, an actor who plays the character of Col. Hardchannel in the play.

"That is your opinion based on what you saw in the newspaper," Doherty shot back. "I'm giving you an opinion based on what I saw with my boots on the ground and in the sand."

In the play, Hardchannel calls reporters "his *****es" and says that if he doesn't like what they write, he'll write it himself and simply use their names. He also censors all reports coming out of Iraq. Fox News journalists embedded with the troops, as well as other journalists interviewed for this story, said they never experienced any kind of censorship. Reporters were only told that they could not reveal operation details that might threaten the safety of U.S. troops -- a condition the Pentagon put on the embedded journalist program.

In reality, no one from the military or the government looked at copy produced by Fox News, touched the videotape, or edited scenes, and no one told reporters what to say.

"Not everything is factual, and maybe that is our fault through satire," added another "Embedded" actor, Kirk Pynchon, who plays a journalist. "Sometimes we make those errors, but it's the same kind of laughter that one gets watching an episode of MASH."

But most people, particularly journalists who actually were embedded with the troops overseas, will argue that Operation Iraqi Freedom was nothing like MASH.

"That demeans the Marines that were killed in my battalion, (to say they) died because five guys in a room thought it was fun to go create a war," Doherty said. "That is bad, bad theater, bad taste."

Robbins had declined to discuss "Embedded" with Fox News until after someone from the channel saw the play. But even after the viewing, Robbins declined interviews.

As in any work of fiction, playwright Robbins was free to invent his own reality of what led to the war in Iraq and what happened there. But for the men and women who served and for those reporters who actually covered them, "Embedded" -- while entertaining -- is far from the truth.