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02-14-2008, 09:10 PM
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Some Questions About Obama
Just to make this clear, I will NEVER vote for Obama. I just have some questions though. Like lately I've been hearing that he's muslim and that he says he will swear on the Koran if elected. I have seen it said on this site and elsewhere, but I've never seen anything to back this up. I would like to see some evidence of this. If any of you can help with this I'd appreciate it. Thanks
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02-14-2008, 09:20 PM
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There's a lot to dislike about Obama, but these aren't true. http://snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
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02-14-2008, 09:32 PM
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Thanks Taxman! This is what I thought, but I never thought to check snopes. I just hope that others will see this, and attack the man on his record, and not the rumors that they hear. This will be very dangerous if rumors are all we have to attack him on.
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02-14-2008, 10:54 PM
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180 degrees.
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Where is the truth Tax? Its certainly not in any Democratic camp Sir. I myself have heard the Koran thing from some credible and not so credible sources. I'll look more into that.
Also about six months ago cnn did a piece on spiratuality and Democrats. It has been a while but I watched this one myself. I swear to you and everyone else on this board they showed Barrack Obama holding Rosary Beads. I am not familiar with the styles of worship within the Church of Christ but I don't think Rosary Beads are involved, I know what I saw.
There is a link I will bring to this thread that ties into the church that Obama claims membership to. These people pledge allegance to Africa not America, it states this boldly on the website. That is why he won't wear a lapel pen with a flag on it, its why he won't cover his heart during the pledge, or has not in the past.
He makes claims like its false patriotism, and other wordy, stylish, fashionable statements to maintain his support. I don't give a "hoot" how red neck or profilish I sound, this guy scares me, period, end of story.
If this country had a more hardlined, "waterboarding" mentality things wouldn't have gone the direction they have gone since 9/11. The fact that a guy with the name of Barrack Hussein Obama is this close to obtaining the highest office in the most powerfull democracy in the world to me is absolutely Twilight Zoneish. On 1-Oct-2001 if someone made this prediction I would have laughed and laughed and laughed.
Excluding good conservatives the United States of America has completely distanced themselves from 9/11. Our legislative branch of Govt. validates that comment every day.
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02-15-2008, 12:19 PM
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I swear to you and everyone else on this board they showed Barrack Obama holding Rosary Beads. I am not familiar with the styles of worship within the Church of Christ but I don't think Rosary Beads are involved, I know what I saw.
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My mother uses her Rosary everyday and I'm pretty sure she isn't a Muslim...
Obama is a religious panderer, a socialist, an egotist, and (arguably) a racist. He's not, however, a Muslim (not that it should disqualify him if he were, any more than Kennedy's or Kerry's Catholicism should have disqualified them).
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02-15-2008, 12:34 PM
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Muslim background
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My mother uses her Rosary everyday and I'm pretty sure she isn't a Muslim...
Obama is a religious panderer, a socialist, an egotist, and (arguably) a racist. He's not, however, a Muslim (not that it should disqualify him if he were, any more than Kennedy's or Kerry's Catholicism should have disqualified them).
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The Man completely confused me Tax. I know Muslims don't use the Rosary buddy. My question is, (because I just don't know) would the worship style of those that are in the Church of Christ require the use of a Rosary?? My immediate guess would be no. I thought I was clear on the question in my original post, however I might not have been, my fingers fly twice the speed of my brain. I probably have my Reagan cap on to tight.
I am in complete agreement with you about him being a religious panderer. I do believe in a General Election the gop would be able to expose him for what he is. I believe they'd have an easier time defeating him than Shillary.
From what I've found he is not a practicing Muslim, however he has a big time Muslim background, the kinfolk. All the ingredients are there, he is the wrong move for the country.
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02-15-2008, 12:47 PM
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remember "Obama as Christ"?
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The Man completely confused me Tax. I know Muslims don't use the Rosary buddy. My question is, (because I just don't know) would the worship style of those that are in the Church of Christ require the use of a Rosary?? My immediate guess would be no. I thought I was clear on the question in my original post, however I might not have been, my fingers fly twice the speed of my brain. I probably have my Reagan cap on to tight.
I am in complete agreement with you about him being a religious panderer. I do believe in a General Election the gop would be able to expose him for what he is. I believe they'd have an easier time defeating him than Shillary.
From what I've found he is not a practicing Muslim, however he has a big time Muslim background, the kinfolk. All the ingredients are there, he is the wrong move for the country.
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I hear what you're saying. His other flaws are much more important to me than his possible Muslim ties, though. It seems almost John Birch-esque to pile on the guy because of who his family prays to...
Now, if you wanted to point out the almost deification of him by his followers then I'd agree that we should all be a little frightened by it...
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02-15-2008, 01:23 PM
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Illusion.
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I hear what you're saying. His other flaws are much more important to me than his possible Muslim ties, though. It seems almost John Birch-esque to pile on the guy because of who his family prays to...
Now, if you wanted to point out the almost deification of him by his followers then I'd agree that we should all be a little frightened by it...
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I boldly admit I can get profilish, "red-neck" if you will. I pray about that weakness all the time.
I became a born again Christian in 73, I've had ample opportunity to "pledge allegance" to other philosophies, Japanese Buddhism for example,when I was young and impressionable. However thirty years later I am still a member of the Baptist community. This is made so for a variety of reasons, chief being upbringing. My Mom & Dad had me centered in the Church before I could walk.
My point here is you're right Obama does appear to be a religious panderer, he claims allegance to what will get him elected, in the public eye. I am forced to ask myself what is he in the private eye. Stats tell us that in most cases we fall back to our roots sooner or later.
We are engaged in a War on Terror, the unfortunate reality is those that do battle against us fall under the Muslim faith, (obama's background) Obama has made no secret that he wants Gitmo gone, that he would not continue the WOT, that he would give Terrorists (Islamo-Fascists) a pass. I am completely backed into a corner of wonder.
I wonder, all the time just how dedicated he is to his back ground. Yeah I am dumping a little, I not only think I have that right, I think it is more than understandable. We would all feel real good if he showed up at his innaugeration in a turbin. Not likely I know, message being the Man is not what he claims. Not even close. I'll even say there is a huge chance he is sympathetic to the plight of our enemies.
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02-15-2008, 01:52 PM
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Sure he's soft on terrorism and wants to get rid of GITMO. It's because he's a socialist egghead though who only dislikes this war and that's the ball we have to keep our eyes on. If we slap him around because he may or may not be a Muslim it'll turn around and bite us. Like I said earlier, there's plenty of stuff to nail him on. 
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02-17-2008, 03:14 PM
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www.tucc.org/about.htm
Check that out. It sais alot about segregation in worship, it explains the racist outlook on Barack Hussein Osama.
A major chunk of Americans would follow a porcupine into a box.
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