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Old 04-28-2010, 09:44 AM
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Mexico issues travel warning - to Arizona!

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April 27 (Bloomberg) -- Mexicans in Arizona should carry documentation and “act carefully” after the state passed a law requiring local police to determine the immigration status of anyone suspected of being in the country illegally, Mexico’s Foreign Ministry said.

The ministry said the warning is directed toward Mexicans living, studying or planning to travel to the southwestern U.S. state, which shares a border with northern Mexico, according to the e-mailed statement sent today. It comes as members of U.S. President Barack Obama’s administration said they have concerns about the new law and may seek to overturn it in court.

“There is an adverse political environment for migrant communities and all Mexican visitors,” Mexico’s ministry said. “It’s important to act carefully and respect the local laws.”

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They say it's important to act carefully and respect the local laws...

That just sounds like good common sense and normal to me.

This whole explosive response to the law is stupid. The people who are whining about this are more concerned about their own comfort and convenience than they are about security and fair play.

So what if they are profiled, when Arizona gets a handle on the illegals and our borders are secured, things will quiet down and go to a normal, quiet, peaceful coexistence ..

All of this talk about individual rights 'not to be bothered', when we have a big problem on our hands is ridiculous..

I know its a pain for the legals and citizens of mexican descent to have to deal with, but we have to deal with the problem and the feds won't do it, so I personally believe Arizona has a right to address the problem and if some people are inconvenienced, they are not going to deny them their rights, if, indeed that do have rights, they are just going to check them out.

If we had a problem among the caucasians I'd be happy to deal with it to weed them out...

Stop the whining.
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:15 PM
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And what of the 14th amendment?
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:55 PM
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And what of the 14th amendment?

Um...... well, you tell me, are they being deprived of life, liberty or property?

I know that people are protected from being deprived of these without due process, but using the 14th amendment to say that state law enforcement cannot request identification, unless they have something on them is ridiculous.. the problem has to be dealt with and this is a harmless way to deal with it ... any citizen who grumbles about being asked for id is just being a child.

People need to stop whining and grow up.
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Liberty is being infringed. I don't want to live in a police state. do you?
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We Are Not Talking About A Police State Here....just An Adherence To The Law. If You Want To See A Police State, Then Allow The Epa And The Fda To Go Forward With Their New Regulations That Will Allow Searchs Without Warrants. This Administration Is Quickly Moving To A Place Where There Will Be No Rights Left For The Citizen. You Mistake The Right Of A State To Protect Their Residents With The Overwhelming Power Of The Federal Governmant.
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Liberty is being infringed. I don't want to live in a police state. do you?

Gad! You are such a twerp!

What do you mean "liberty" is being "infringed"?

There is no infringement in asking to see someone's id..

I've had it happen to me, show your id, they check it out and say "have a nice day"!

If you don't want to live in a police state, then get on the band wagon to get rid of Obama and his dreams of dictatorship!

And stop whining about someone being asked to show their id ... after all - There IS a HUGE problems with illegals in Arizona, creating pandemonium for the citizens and they only way they can sort it out is to find out who is legal and who isn't.... THEY GOTTA CHECK GENIUS!!
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Travel Warning? Why can't we issue a Criminal Illegal Warning along the US Border? AZ for instance?
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Gad! You are such a twerp!

What do you mean "liberty" is being "infringed"?

There is no infringement in asking to see someone's id..

I've had it happen to me, show your id, they check it out and say "have a nice day"!

If you don't want to live in a police state, then get on the band wagon to get rid of Obama and his dreams of dictatorship!

And stop whining about someone being asked to show their id ... after all - There IS a HUGE problems with illegals in Arizona, creating pandemonium for the citizens and they only way they can sort it out is to find out who is legal and who isn't.... THEY GOTTA CHECK GENIUS!!

And what's the criteria they will be using to determine who to ask for ID?
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And what's the criteria they will be using to determine who to ask for ID?
Had you been watching an Interview between a Leftist (Hispanic) Lawyer from California who is completely against Arizona's new Law and an Arizona Police Officer, you would have a detailed example of the criteria, which covered suspicious activity during a Traffic stop. The activities would parallel the kind of activities that would get a driver a free car checkup by a Drug Sniffing Dog.
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And what of the 14th amendment?
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Liberty is being infringed. I don't want to live in a police state. do you?
BTW: El StrongBO, do you realize your "questions" are following one of the rules for Radicals and a common destructive tactic of Socialists/Communists.
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