Welcome to the RonaldReagan.com Forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   RonaldReagan.com Forums > Reagan's Peers > Dubya's Domain (Current Events & News Forum)

Dubya's Domain (Current Events & News Forum) A Current Events Forum Dedicated To Our 43rd President - George W. Bush.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-01-2012, 05:10 AM
261911's Avatar
261911 261911 is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,576
Rep Power: 8112847
261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute
261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute261911 has a reputation beyond repute
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Obama still blaming Bush for economy?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/166607222...ylist_id=87485

Apparently so. Fact of the matter is, Barry will never own up to his failures.
__________________
"Make no mistake, abortion-on-demand is not a right granted by the Constitution. No serious scholar, including one disposed to agree with the Court’s result, has argued that the framers of the Constitution intended to create such a right. Despite the formidable obstacles before us, we must not lose heart."

"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15."
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-01-2012, 06:55 AM
Liberty's Avatar
Liberty Liberty is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,309
Rep Power: 50
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Got to give Obama credit though. He's consistent.
__________________
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.” - Ronald Reagan

"To the United Nations, and the New York Times, charity apparently is defined by how much a government offers to those in need from the money its citizens have coughed up in order to stay out of jail." - Unknown

"Liberalism: Classic projection of a liberal's faults onto those they despise the most." - Chris Muir
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-09-2012, 11:32 AM
Sci Fi Fan Sci Fi Fan is offline
Pinhead
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 57
Rep Power: 58
Sci Fi Fan is on a distinguished road
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Wait, so if the worst economic downturn since the Great one isn't Bush's fault, whose is it? The recession started well before Obama went in; at worst, you blame him for not getting us out of it quickly enough.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-09-2012, 12:47 PM
Warhawk1982's Avatar
Warhawk1982 Warhawk1982 is offline
U.S. President
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,584
Rep Power: 23915008
Warhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond repute
Warhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond repute
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Who controlled Congress from '06 to '10?
__________________
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Freedom is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
-Benjamin Franklin

Impeach barry now! 'Nuff said.



Liberalism and Islam are diseases that should be wiped from the face of the Earth.

Acta non Verba!5e34q

Conservatives: Because not everyone can feel good about being blind sheep.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-09-2012, 03:59 PM
Liberty's Avatar
Liberty Liberty is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,309
Rep Power: 50
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Quote:
Wait, so if the worst economic downturn since the Great one isn't Bush's fault, whose is it?
LOL. How quick the Left ignores Jimmy Carter.

As Warhawk pointed out, the downturn didn't begin until Democrats took control of Congress. Its interesting to note that Clinton's economic boom didn't begin until Republicans took control of Congress.

Makes you go "Hmmmmm....".


Quote:
The recession started well before Obama went in; at worst, you blame him for not getting us out of it quickly enough.
Well, Reagan was able to do it. In fact, Reagan won re-election in a landslide. Wanna bet it won't be the same for Obama?
__________________
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.” - Ronald Reagan

"To the United Nations, and the New York Times, charity apparently is defined by how much a government offers to those in need from the money its citizens have coughed up in order to stay out of jail." - Unknown

"Liberalism: Classic projection of a liberal's faults onto those they despise the most." - Chris Muir
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-09-2012, 04:37 PM
Liberty's Avatar
Liberty Liberty is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,309
Rep Power: 50
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

BTW, for the Blame Bush crowd a reminder..........



__________________
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.” - Ronald Reagan

"To the United Nations, and the New York Times, charity apparently is defined by how much a government offers to those in need from the money its citizens have coughed up in order to stay out of jail." - Unknown

"Liberalism: Classic projection of a liberal's faults onto those they despise the most." - Chris Muir
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-10-2012, 11:21 AM
Sci Fi Fan Sci Fi Fan is offline
Pinhead
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 57
Rep Power: 58
Sci Fi Fan is on a distinguished road
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warhawk1982 View Post
Who controlled Congress from '06 to '10?
Who controls the House?

Besides, the Republicans controlled both houses until 2007, and recessions are rarely the product of only a few years of mismanagement. Feel free to show me the Evil Liberal measures passed post 2007 that contributed to the economic collapse.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-10-2012, 12:15 PM
Liberty's Avatar
Liberty Liberty is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,309
Rep Power: 50
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
Liberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond reputeLiberty has a reputation beyond repute
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sci Fi Fan View Post
Who controls the House?

Besides, the Republicans controlled both houses until 2007, and recessions are rarely the product of only a few years of mismanagement. Feel free to show me the Evil Liberal measures passed post 2007 that contributed to the economic collapse.
So, you agree that the recession that occurred shortly after Bush took office was Clinton's fault.
__________________
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.” - Ronald Reagan

"To the United Nations, and the New York Times, charity apparently is defined by how much a government offers to those in need from the money its citizens have coughed up in order to stay out of jail." - Unknown

"Liberalism: Classic projection of a liberal's faults onto those they despise the most." - Chris Muir
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-10-2012, 05:05 PM
Warhawk1982's Avatar
Warhawk1982 Warhawk1982 is offline
U.S. President
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,584
Rep Power: 23915008
Warhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond repute
Warhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond reputeWarhawk1982 has a reputation beyond repute
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sci Fi Fan View Post
Who controls the House?

Besides, the Republicans controlled both houses until 2007, and recessions are rarely the product of only a few years of mismanagement. Feel free to show me the Evil Liberal measures passed post 2007 that contributed to the economic collapse.
You do know how our government works? Right? The current Republican controlled House is only one-third of our government. The democrats controlled the House AND the Senate from '06 to '10. TWO-THIRDS. From '08 to '10 they controlled all THREE branches of our government. Under their watch, we've suffered a recession that began with their idiotic, acorn sponsored, sub prime mortgages which brought the housing market down http://www.examiner.com/article/rece...ed-by-congress , followed by bail-outs of huge corporations, higher gas prices than ever, Billions of taxpayers dollars wasted on "green" jobs that failed(solyndra http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63654.html ) and man made crises blown completely out of proportion (the Gulf Oil Spill in which Bobby Jindal's efforts at early clean up were halted by a Federal Order http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/01/us...pagewanted=all ). Check...your move.
__________________
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Freedom is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
-Benjamin Franklin

Impeach barry now! 'Nuff said.



Liberalism and Islam are diseases that should be wiped from the face of the Earth.

Acta non Verba!5e34q

Conservatives: Because not everyone can feel good about being blind sheep.

Last edited by Warhawk1982 : 06-11-2012 at 12:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-12-2012, 03:53 PM
Sci Fi Fan Sci Fi Fan is offline
Pinhead
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 57
Rep Power: 58
Sci Fi Fan is on a distinguished road
AddThis Social Bookmark Button AddThis Feed Button

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberty View Post
So, you agree that the recession that occurred shortly after Bush took office was Clinton's fault.
Perhaps (his administration and the fed as a whole). But given that it followed the largest period of uninterrupted economic growth in the nation's history, it's hardly a huge mark on his presidency, given that economic growth is inevitably followed with some sort of temporary decline.

For example, the Great Depression followed a period of economic prosperity in the conservative 20's, where big business flourished and [most] Americans prospered, yet this short term prosperity led to a very offsetting fall. Clinton's economic expansion was even more impressive, and the step back was, to say the least, slightly milder.

Meanwhile, Bush led us into a very serious recession, and accomplished jack and **** to compensate.

-----------------------------------------------------------------


It's why I don't understand why the right worships Reagan. For one, he did several things that conservatives tend to hate: pardoned illegal aliens, increased federal spending, negotiated (secretly and illegally) with terrorists, raised taxes, tripled the national debt, etc. For another, Reaganomics were initially a failure, but eventually did result in an economic boom. That's great.

But in the long run, it resulted in a deep recession that was blamed on Bush sr, widened the wealth gap, and his tripling of the national debt has never been paid off.

It's why Jimmy Carter, while largely an ineffective president, at least deserves some credit for leading us on a path to alternative fuel use. It damaged our economy in the short run and cost Carter the election, but the long term consequences are more important than what Reagan did.

Hence, I value LBJ's civil rights crusading over Reagan's short term economic boom, for example.








Quote:
Originally Posted by Warhawk1982 View Post
You do know how our government works? Right? The current Republican controlled House is only one-third of our government. The democrats controlled the House AND the Senate from '06 to '10. TWO-THIRDS. From '08 to '10 they controlled all THREE branches of our government.
Just a nitpick...you're getting your branches mixed up.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:41 AM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RonaldReagan.com is the property of Techsure LLC ©1996-2008


 
Page generated in 0.17630 seconds with 9 queries