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03-10-2005, 05:53 PM
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<font size="4" s> Annan Calls for Treaty Outlawing Terrorism</font s>
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U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan called Thursday for a world treaty on terrorism that would outlaw attacks targeting civilians and establish a framework for a collective response to the global threat.
Although the United Nations and its agencies already have 12 treaties covering terrorism, a universal definition has been elusive.
World leaders and officials have had deep disagreements over whether resisters to alleged oppression - for example, Palestinian suicide bombers attacking Israeli targets - are terrorists or freedom fighters; and whether states that use what they think is legitimate force might be branded terrorists.
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Gee. Does this mean that terrorism doen't violate precious "International Law"???? I can't wait for Bolton to get in the UN and start smacking a few heads.
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03-10-2005, 08:12 PM
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<---------slapping own forehead.
What the...?
Wow, these guys are really living in a dreamland made up in thier own minds.
Just when I think I have tabs on how useless the UN is..........jeez.
Maybe they should have a vote in the UN to be timely and effective.
I think a new "The UN should not be a useless waste of your attention span so will be abolished before you finish reading this" treaty should be signed without delay.
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03-10-2005, 08:25 PM
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What is so stupid about this? Doesn't sound much different than what Bush claims to believe:
"The right to resist occupation ... cannot include the right to deliberately kill or maim civilians," Annan told the conference on democracy, terrorism and security. The United Nations, he said, must proclaim "loud and clear that terrorism can never be accepted or justified in any cause whatsoever."
Gonzales pledged to work closely with Europe to strengthen a collective effort against terrorism.
"The fight against terrorism is, in the end, a struggle over values," the attorney general said in remarks that stressed the close cooperation between Europe and the United States since the Sept. 11 attacks. "Freedom, not terror, will triumph," Gonzales said. "We will not be divided. And we, not they, will know victory."
In his speech, Annan stressed that no country is exempt from attack and that the way forward is coordinated action by like-minded governments, which must reject brutal tactics. "Perhaps the thing that is most vital we deny to terrorists is access to nuclear materials," Annan said. "Nuclear terrorism is still often treated as science fiction. I wish it were. ...
"Were such an attack to occur, it would not only cause widespread death and destruction, but would stagger the world economy and thrust tens of millions of people into dire poverty," he said. Preventing that would justify the use of force.
Annan said multinational police, legal and diplomatic work is the best strategy, for example, pinpointing and thwarting terrorist groups and their activities; and blocking the travel, financial and other means to carry out attacks. But when military force is required, the Security Council "will not hesitate" to use it.
All the while, "human rights and the rule of law must always be respected," he said. "Upholding human rights is not merely compatible with a successful counterterrorism strategy. It is an essential element in it."
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03-10-2005, 08:37 PM
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No different than liberals thinking that passing new gun laws, to add to the 27,456 antigun laws already on the books, will keep criminals from being criminals.
What is so hard to understand about ENFORCING EXISTING LAWS?
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03-10-2005, 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Father of patriots:
No different than liberals thinking that passing new gun laws, to add to the 27,456 antigun laws already on the books, will keep criminals from being criminals.
What is so hard to understand about ENFORCING EXISTING LAWS?
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The only laws are created is when people pass them. And if existing laws are ambiguous, contradictory or outdated, there is nothing "idiotic" about revisiting them.
If you want to see the world fight terrorism in any meaningful way, it is necessary to look at what that means. If it is left to every nation to make its own definition of what is "acceptable" terrorism and what is "unacceptable" terrorism, that's called anarchy.
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03-10-2005, 08:59 PM
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Well this is good now that the UN finally outlawed TERRORISM everything will be peaceful in the world.
How about outlawing COMMUNISM next?
Does this mean all those resoulutions against ISREAL are null and VOID? Or the actions of the Palestinians aren't considered Terrorism under the UN statues?
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If you want to see the world fight terrorism in any meaningful way, it is necessary to look at what that means. If it is left to every nation to make its own definition of what is "acceptable" terrorism and what is "unacceptable" terrorism, that's called anarchy.-Curious
So since we are going with UN deffinitions of actions.. How about the 1 million SUDANESE that were slaughtered with MACHETES? The UN's officall statement is that NO GENOCIDE was happening there.
No human rights violations by the SUDANESE GOV'T.
Should we then infer that RWANDA wasn't GENOCIDE?
Or What happended in SERBIA? Where Christian were being slaughtered by MUSLIMS or in CHINA where CHRISTIANS are slaughtered?
Did POL POT engage in GENOCIDE? He only killed 2 million of his citizens.
Since we are going with the UN's deffinition of things.
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03-10-2005, 09:00 PM
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Once again, Curious defends the indefensible.
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03-10-2005, 09:35 PM
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Sorry gents, but if anyones talking like idiots on this it's you.
Your hatred of the UN has got you so blinkered that when they say or do something positive or just plain obvious you can't see it or accept it.
Do you seriously believe that defining what is and what isn't terrorism is something that isn't worth talking about, isn't relevant, at the UN or anyplace else ?
What do YOU think is and isn't terrorism ?
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03-10-2005, 09:48 PM
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Kofi coming out against terrorism is like Bill Clinton going to church. It's misdirection, a media event. Nothing more.
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03-10-2005, 09:54 PM
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Flying 2 Jetplanes full of FUEL into 2 buildings full of people going to work killing 3000 innocent people.
THAT IS TERRORISM
Blowing up a discotech(or bus or school bus or pizza palor) by strapping a vest fully nails, nuts, and bolts and explosives to maximize the amount of JEWISH BLOOD being spilled.
THAT IS TERRORISM.
Shooting a pregnant Isrealie woman and her 4 young girls and then shooting the women in her stomach to make sure the fetis doesn't live..
THAT IS TERRORISM.
Making a beheading video and using a rusty knife to sever a pleading man's head and then putting the severed head on the man's back and singing ALLAH IS GREAT PRAISE BE TO ALLAH!!!!
THAT IS TERRORISM.
Capturing non-military and military men and women, not only beheading them, dragging their corpses around and then burning the bodies to a crisp and then hanging the remains of the dead bodies on a bridge.
THAT IS TERRORISM.
Now that I just did the UN's job in the amount of a few minutes can we kicked them out of NY and sell the property to DONALD TRUMP so he can build highend condos?
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