A little help in defending Reagan's legacy

[The Radical Right]

So, in some roundabout way, I ended up debating with a lib about how Bill Clinton's administration was one of the most corrupt in U.S. history. He subsequently countered by saying, "Don't get me started on Reagan," and then listed off quite a list of people in Reagan's administration brought up on various charges. It's a little long, so bear with me.

"Richard Allen, National Security adviser -- resigned amid controversy over an honorarium he received for arranging an interview with Nancy Reagan.

Richard Beggs, chief administrator at NASA -- indicted for defrauding the government while an executive at General Dynamics.

Carlos Campbell, Assistant Secretary of Commerce -- resigned over charges of awarding federal grants to his personal friends' firms.

Michael Deaver, Deputy White House Chief of Staff -- received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House.

Raymond Donovan, Secretary of Labor -- indicted for defrauding the New York City Transit Authority of $7.4. million, but acquitted.

John Fedders, chief of enforcement for the Securities and Exchange Commission -- resigned over charges of beating his wife.

Guy Flake, Deputy Secretary of Commerce -- resigned after allegations of a conflict of interest in contract negotiations.

Louis Glutfrida, Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency -- resigned amid allegations of misuses of government property.

Edwin Gray, Chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank -- charged with illegally repaying himself and his wife $26,000 in travel costs.

Arthur Hayes, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration -- resigned over illegal travel reimbursements.

J. Lynn Helms, chief of the Federal Aviation Administration -- resigned over a grand jury investigation of illegal business activities.

Max Hugel, CIA chief of covert operations -- resigned after allegations of fraudulent financial dealings.

Marjory Mecklenburg, Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Resources -- resigned over irregularities on her travel vouchers.

Edwin Meese III, Attorney General -- resigned after having been the subject of investigations by the United States Office of the Independent Counsel on two occasions (Wedtech and Iran-Contra), during the 3 short years he was in office. E. Bob Wallach, Meese's close friend and law classmate, was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $250,000 in connection with the Wedtech influence-peddling scandal.

Robert Nimmo, head of the Veterans Administration -- resigned when a report criticized him for improper use of government funds.

Lyn Nofziger, advisor -- Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal.

J. William Petro, you.S. Attorney -- fired and fined for tipping off an acquaintance about a forthcoming Grand Jury investigation.

Thomas C. Reed, White House counselor and National Security Council adviser -- resigned and paid a $427,000 fine for stock market insider trading.

Emanuel Savas, Assistant Secretary of HUD -- resigned over assigning staff members to work on government time on a book that guilty to expense account fraud and accepting kickbacks on government contracts.

James Watt, Secretary of the Interior -- indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. In testifying before a House committee Watt said: "That's what they offered and it sounded like a lot of money to me, and we settled on it." Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.

Charles Wick, Director of the you.S. Information Agency -- investigated for taping conversations with public officials without their approval.


And the jewel of the crown:

The Iran-Contra scandal

In June, 1984, at a National Security Council meeting, CIA Director Casey urged President Reagan to seek third-party aid for the Nicaraguan contras. Secretary of State Schultz warned that it would be an "impeachable offense" if the US government acted as conduit for such secret funding. But that didn't stop them. That same day, Oliver North was seeking third-party aid for the contras. But Reagan, the "teflon President" avoided serious charges or impeachment.

* Oliver North, NSC Staffer -- Convicted of falsifying and destroying documents, accepting an illegal gratuity, and aiding and abetting the obstruction of Congress. Conviction overturned on appeal due to legal technicalities.

* John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor -- guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing.

* Richard Secord -- pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra.

* Casper Weinberger, Secretary of Defense -- In June 1992 he was indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of concealing from congressional investigators and prosecutors thousands of pages of his handwritten notes. The personal memoirs taken during high level meetings, detailed events in 1985 and 1986 involving the Iran-Contra affair. Weinberger claimed he was being unfairly prosecuted because he would not provide information incriminating Ronald Reagan. Weinberger was scheduled to go on trial January 5, 1993, where the contents of his notes would have come to light and may have implicated other, unindicted conspirators. While Weinberger was never directly linked to the covert operations phase of the Iran-Contra affair, he is believed to have been involved in the cover-up of the ensuing scandal. According to Special Prosecutor Lawrence Walsh, Weinberger's notes contain evidence of a conspiracy among the highest ranking Reagan Administration officials to lie to congress and the American public. Some of the notes are believed to have evidence against then Vice-President George Bush who pardoned Weinberger to keep him from going to trial.

* Elliott Abrams, head of the State Department's Latin American Bureau -- He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush.

* Robert C. McFarlane, National Security Advisor -- Became well-known as a champion of the MX missile program in his role as White House liaison to congress. In 1984, Mc Farlane initiated the review of you.S. policy towards Iran that led directly to the arms for hostages deal. He also supervised early National Security Council efforts to support the Contras. Shortly after the Iran-Contra scandal was revealed in early 1987, McFarlane took an overdose of the tranquilizer Valium in an attempt to end his life. In his own words: "What really drove me to despair was a sense of having failed the country." McFarlane pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush.

* Alan D. Fiers, CIA's Central American Task Force Chief -- pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Fiers agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in exchange for having his felonies reduced to misdemeanors and his testimony gave a boost to the long standing criminal investigation of Lawrence Walsh, Special Prosecutor. Fiers testified that he and three CIA colleagues knew by mid-1986 that profits from the TOW and HAWK missile sales to Iran were being diverted to the Contras months before it became public knowledge. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush.

* Clair George, CIA's Division of Covert Operations Cheif -- In August 1992 a hung jury led you.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth to declare a mistrial in the case of Clair George who was accused of concealing from Congress his knowledge of the Iran-Contra affair. George had been named by Alan Fiers when Fiers turned state's evidence for Lawrence Walsh's investigation. In a second trial on charges of perjury, false statements and obstruction of justice, George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Those charges would have carried a mandatory 10 months in prison upon conviction. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush.

* Duane R. (Dewey) Clarridge, CIA's Western European Division Chief -- indicted on November 29, 1991 for lying to congress and to the Tower Commission that investigated Iran- Contra. Clarridge was charged with five counts of perjury and two counts of making false statements for covering up his knowledge of a November 25, 1985 shipment of HAWK missiles to Iran. Clarridge was also suspected of diverting to the Contras weapons that were originally intended for the Afghan mujahaddeen guerrillas. Clarridge received a blanket pardon for his crimes on Christmas Eve 1992 from President George Bush.


And for good measure:

Environmental Protection Agency's favoritism toward polluters -- Assistant administrator unduly influenced by chemical industry lobbyists. Another administrator resigned after pressuring employees to tone down a critical report on a chemical company accused of illegal pollution in Michigan. The deputy chief of federal activities was accused of compiling an interagency "hit" or "enemies" list, like those kept in the Nixon Watergate period, singling out career employees to be hired, fired or promoted according to political beliefs.

* Anne Gorscuh Burford, EPA Adminstrator -- resigned amid accusations she politically manipulated the Superfund money.

* Rita Lavelle, EPA Assiatnt Administrator -- was fired after accusing a senior EPA official of "systematically alienating the business community." She was later indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence. After an extensive investigation, in August 1984, a House of Representatives subcommittee concluded that top-level EPA appointees by Reagan for three years "violated their public trust by disregarding the public health and the environment, manipulating the Superfund program for political purposes, engaging in unethical conduct and participating in other abuses.".


Honorable Mentions:

Neglect of nuclear safety -- A critical situation involving nuclear safety had been allowed to develop during the Reagan era. Immense sums, estimated at 200 billion or more, would be required in the 1990s to replace and make safe America's neglected, aging, deteriorating, and dangerous nuclear facilities.

Savings & Loan Bail-out -- Hundreds of billions of dollars were needed to bail out savings and loan institutions that either had failed during the deregulation frenzy of the eighties or were in danger of bankruptcy.

Reckless airline deregulation -- Deregulation of airline industry took too broad a sweep, endangering public safety."


It's certainly a gray area, as a number of those people weren't even appointed by Reagan. However, I have responded, in kind, with a nice list of Clinton's own personal scandals, including Filegate, Travelgate, that little thing about getting impeached, and Chinagate.

I'm taken aback by someone's allegations that Reagan was our most corrupt President. I've read several books on the Presidents, and Reagan is never mentioned for any sort of scandal except for Iran-Contra.

[Liberty]

There were a lot of allegations made during the Reagan administration. Unlike the Clinton administration, few ever led to a trial and conviction.

Just remember, you can indict a ham sandwich. Convictions are something else entirely.

Just remember, when Reagan found out that arms were indeed traded for hostages, he went to the American people and faced them. Clinton just wagged his finger.


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[andophiroxia]

The thing is that it seems to me when Republicans are indicted, they resign or step down due to principles in the party. Dems are not required to step down unless there is a conviction. Unfortunately, that has been used against the Republicans a lot, especially of late. When one really knows how an indictment is given, it really means nothing or not much. It's basically the prosecution presenting their case, but the defendant is not there to rebut or defend themselves.

[Fleet]

Remember, too, that many of the scandals in the Clinton administration involved only Clinton himself (like the lying under oath, obstructing justice and witness tampering).

[The Finman]

You will find most of the answers in the Oval Office Forum, but this post has some very good info (I know because I wrote most of it. )

http://www.ronaldreagan.com/ubb/ulti.../t/000051.html

[Tin_Man]

<snip> Clinton just wagged his finger.


. [/QB]

Thought it was a cigar.... *oooooo... forgive me for that one!*

[tvcrazyman]

We don't even know if all those your friend listed, Gipper, were really indicted for anything. He could have always just made it up or gotten a list off some wacky liberal website.

"Trust but verify" Reagan always said, but sometimes I go with Mulder's version from the X-files " Trust no one"

[The Finman]

Originally posted by tvcrazyman:
We don't even know if all those your friend listed, Gipper, were really indicted for anything. He could have always just made it up or gotten a list off some wacky liberal website.

"Trust but verify" Reagan always said, but sometimes I go with Mulder's version from the X-files " Trust no one"

tvcrazyman is right...what your friend posted is nothing more than "cut & paste" from far left leaning web sites. See for yourself. [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...eregulation%22

Your friend didn't do anything more than copy a hit piece from far left web sites.

Ask him if it's his work (to catch him lying), and then ask him for references for EVERY single charge (that should take him 3 weeks [img]graemlins/Laughing.gif[/img] ), and I doubt he can validate 1/4 of the nonsense he copied and pasted.

Tell him that you can play that game too! [img]graemlins/EvilKingGrinning.gif[/img]

THE MOST ETHICAL
ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY
Summary of Alleged Crimes and Abuses of Power by the Clinton
Administration
Updated Oct. 27, 1997 --
For reasons of brevity, titles of individuals are omitted and allegations are listed in summary style only.
Each allegation has been described in detail in the Washington Weekly over the past few years.
BILL CLINTON:
1. Conspired with David Hale and Jim McDougal to defraud the Small Business Administration of
$300,000.
2. Used State Police for personal purposes.
3. Abused his position as governor to extort sexual favors from employees.
4. Directed State Police to fabricate incriminating evidence against political opponents: Steve Clark,
Terry Reed, and Larry Nichols.
5. Knew about drug importation and distribution by a friend and campaign contributor, Dan Lasater.
6. Allowed drug money to be laundered through ADFA.
7. Appointed and protected Arkansas Medical Examiner Fahmy Malak who repeatedly obstructed
justice by declaring murders as "suicides" or "accidents."
8. Has never accounted for his actions during 40 days behind the Iron Curtain during the Vietnam
War.
9. Tipped off Governor Tucker about upcoming criminal referral.
10. Violated Arkansas campaign finance laws.
11. Violated the Constitution by signing into law an ex post facto law, a retroactive tax increase.
12. Fired RTC chief Albert Casey to allow his friend Roger Altman to monitor and block Whitewater
investigations.
13. Fired FBI director William Sessions and the entire top management at the FBI to prevent an
autonomous FBI from investigating the suicide of Vince Foster and other scandals.
14. Fired all U.S. Attorneys to appoint Paula Casey who prevented Judge David Hale from testifying
against Clinton.
15. Offered State Troopers federal jobs in return for their silence about Clinton's crimes.
16. Blocked Justice Department indictments after Inspector General Sherman Funk found "criminal
violations of the Privacy Act provable beyond reasonable doubt" when former Bush employee
files were searched and leaked to the press.
17. Appointed friend and felon Webster Hubbell to number 3 position in Justice Department in order
to be able to block Whitewater criminal referrals by RTC investigator L. Jean Lewis.
18. Blocked the criminal trial of Representative Ford, a Tennessee Democrat.
19. Appointed a campaign activist to head the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, without the
mandated "advice and consent" of the Senate, to derail a probe of his and Hillary's financial
dealings.
20. Committed witness tampering by causing bribes to be paid to Webster Hubbell.
21. Committed witness tampering by causing a job with the NSC to be offered to former Trooper L.D.
Brown in return for Brown's silence on several Clinton crimes.
22. Rifled through L.D. Brown's personnel file at the CIA in an attempt to find damaging information
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on Brown, a witness to many Clinton crimes.
23. Blocked Justice Department prosecution of Arthur Coia, a union Mob puppet and heavy Clinton
donor.
24. Made fund-raising calls from the White House, a federal property.
25. Accepted a bribe from the Government of China, hidden from federal election inspectors by
laundering it through Ng Lap Seng, the Bank of China, Charlie Trie and his relatives, and his
Legal Defense Fund.
26. Accepted a $50,000 bribe from the candidate for president of South Korea, in return for a written
endorsement of the candidate.
27. Engaged in a criminal scheme to launder illegal contributions for the president of Teamsters
campaign and in turn laundered illegal foreign contributions through the "Teamsters for a
Corruption Free Union" fund.
28. Subverted federal campaign spending limits through a DNC slush fund used for television
advertising planned by political consultant Dick Morris. Bill Clinton is under investigation by an
Independent Counsel and by Congress.
AL GORE:
1. Made fund-raising calls from the White House, a federal property.
2. Participated in an illegal fund-raising event at the Hsi Lai Temple were campaign contributions
were laundered through nuns.
3. Accepted a $50,000 bribe from a waste disposal company, Molten Metal Technology, in return for
helping it get federal contracts. Al Gore is under investigation by Congress and by the Justice
Department.
HILLARY CLINTON:
1. Accepted a $100,000 bribe, laundered through cattle futures, from Tyson Foods Inc.
2. Speculated in Health Care industry futures while overseeing legislative reform of same.
3. Failed to correct false testimony by co-defendant Ira Magaziner in the Health Care Task Force
trial.
4. Ordered members of the Health Care Task Force to shred documents that were the target of a
court probe.
5. Obstructed justice by ordering the removal and shredding of Vince Foster's documents on the
night of his death.
6. Hired Craig Livingstone to conduct a political intelligence operation against her opponents.
7. Defrauded the U.S. Treasury of more than $10 million by funneling Community Development
Financial Institutions grants to financial institutions in which she has an interest.
8. Ordered Treasury officials to cover up the fraud by fabrication of false documents. Hillary Clinton
is under investigation by an Independent Counsel.
WEBSTER HUBBELL:
1. Convicted for defrauding the federal government (FDIC and IRS).
2. Executed obstruction of justice in the Justice Department in several cases: The Inslaw case, and
the RTC criminal referrals on Whitewater. Webster Hubbell has resigned.
IRA MAGAZINER:
1. Violated federal law when he held Health Care Task Force Meetings in secret and refused to
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release documents.
2. Lied in court about the composition of the Health Care Task Force. A criminal referral by Judge
Royce Lamberth was not acted upon by the Clinton-appointed U.S. Att. Eric Holder.
BERNARD NUSSBAUM:
1. Obstructed justice in the Foster suicide investigation by blocking access, removing documents,
lying about his removal of documents, and by retrieving Foster's pager from Park Police.
2. Attempted to quash a Whitewater investigation at the RTC through White House liaisons. Bernard
Nussbaum has resigned.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS:
1. Accepted a $600,000 loan below market interest and with insufficient collateral from
NationsBank, a bank having business before the Clinton Administration.
2. Lied to Congress during Whitewater hearings.
3. Obstructed justice by attempting to have Whitewater investigator Jay Stephens at the RTC fired.
George Stephanopoulos has resigned.
MIKE ESPY:
1. Accepted bribes from Tyson Foods Inc. and other companies which were under regulatory control
of his Agriculture Department. Mike Espy has resigned and is awaiting indictment by a special
prosecutor.
ROGER ALTMAN:
1. Lied to Congress during Whitewater hearings.
2. When caught, lied to Congress about having lied to Congress.
3. Instructed Ellen Kulka and Jack Ryan at the RTC to block the Whitewater investigation by L. Jean
Lewis. Roger Altman has resigned but is still carrying out assignments for the White House.
RON BROWN:
1. Negotiated a $700,000 bribe with the Vietnamese government.
2. Accepted a $60,000 bribe from Dynamic Energy Resources.
3. Sold seats on foreign trips to DNC contributors. Was under investigation by an independent
counsel when he died in a plane crash.
LES ASPIN:
1. By denying them military protection equipment, Aspin was responsible for the death of Army
Rangers in Somalia. Les Aspin resigned and died before he could be held accountable in a public
forum.
WILLIAM KENNEDY AND DAVID WATKINS:
1. Fabricated charges against White House Travel Office personnel to have the business taken over
by Clinton friends.
2. Coerced FBI and IRS agents into complicity with this scheme. Kennedy and Watkins have
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resigned.
CATHERINE CORNELIUS:
1. Removed documents from White House Travel Office. Because those documents later became the
subject of a trial against Office Director Billy Dale, that became an obstruction of justice.
PATSY THOMASSON:
1. Lied to Congress about the composition of the Health Care Task Force and the size of its budget.
2. Obstructed justice when she removed documents from the office of Vince Foster.
3. Fabricated charges against White House Travel Office personnel to have the business taken over
by Clinton friends.
MARGARET WILLIAMS:
1. Obstructed justice when she removed documents from the office of Vince Foster.
2. Solicited and accepted a $50,000 campaign contribution from Johnny Chung in the White House
in return for Hillary Clinton meeting with Chinese businessmen. Margaret Williams has resigned.
JOSHUA STEINER:
1. Lied to Congress about conversations with White House personnel about the RTC. Joshua Steiner
has resigned.
LLOYD CUTLER:
1. Lied to Congress about the contents of redacted documents.
2. Attempted to withhold vital information from Congress, a felony.
3. Obtained a confidential Treasury report and showed it to witnesses before they testified before
Congress in the Whitewater hearings. Lied to Congress when he denied having coached witnesses.
Lloyd Cutler has resigned.
MACK MCLARTY:
1. As chairman of Arkla, was responsible for the bribing of public utility officials.
2. Conspired with Democratic Congressional Leadership to block access by investigators to vital
documents in a Congressional hearing. Mack McLarty escaped prosecution when a lobbyist
working for him was convicted of bribery.
HAROLD ICKES:
1. Broke into New York Republican headquarters in 1970. Has never been indicted for this crime
which was similar to what the Watergate Plumbers spent time in jail for.
2. Had contacts with the Arkansas-based Park-On-Meter company which received questionable loan
from Clinton's ADFA and was alleged to be involved in arms manufacturing.
3. Worked for Mafia-controlled labor unions.
4. Set up a $56 million slush fund by Union Mobsters for use in Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign.
5. Arranged meeting between Mob figure and Clinton campaign contributor Arthur Coia and Bill
Clinton.
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6. Lied to Congress during Whitewater hearings.
7. Improperly discussed a $500,000 contribution in a memo to businessman Warren Meddoff, using
White House computer, telephone, and fax. Faxed instructions on how to launder contributions
through tax-exempt organization to evade scrutiny of FEC.
8. Attempted to obstruct justice by orchestrating an approach to Whitewater witness Beverly Basset
Shaffer. Harold Ickes was fired.
BRUCE LINDSEY:
1. As treasurer for the Clinton gubernatorial campaign in 1990, he signed withdrawals from Perry
County Bank, the president of which was indicted for conspiring to conceal these withdrawals
from the IRS and FEC.
MARIAN BENETT:
1. Covered up credit-card fraud by USIA Inspector General staff.
2. Launched a politically motivated investigation of Radio Marti, a staunchly anti-Communist radio
station run by the government.
FEDERICO PENA:
1. State and federal contracts were awarded to companies in which he had a financial interest. The
Justice Department found insufficient evidence to appoint a Special Counsel.
HENRY CISNEROS:
1. Lied to the FBI about payments to former lover. Henry Cisneros is under investigation by a
Special Counsel.
JANET RENO:
1. Fabricated charges of child molestation against the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas.
2. Ordered the use of military equipment against citizens of the United States.
3. Ordered the use of chemical agents against citizens of the United States.
4. For more than a year stalled the appointment of a special counsel to investigate clear evidence of
campaign fundraising illegalities.
ROBERT REICH:
1. Lied to Congress when he wrote that there were no memos circulating in the Labor Department
instructing staff to gather political material against the Contract with America. Such memos were
later published. Robert Reich has been replaced.
DONNA SHALALA:
1. As Chancellor of the University of Wisconsin at Madison instituted speech codes which were
found to be unconstitutional in federal court. Instituted thought-police star chamber proceedings to
drive politically incorrect people off campus.
CAROL BROWNER:
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1. Used the EPA to campaign against Republicans running on the Contract with America, an illegal
use of the executive branch for political campaigning. Carol Browner is under investigation by
Congress.
ROBERTA ACHTENBERG:
1. Violated the First Amendment when she ordered HUD lawyers to silence citizens who spoke out
against planned housing projects.
2. Exceeded her authority when she had HUD staff threaten Allentown County to withdraw an "Use
of English language encouraged" ordinance. Roberta Achtenberg has resigned.
DEVAL PATRICK:
1. Used extortion to force banks to give preferential treatment to minorities. Congress is
investigating the possibility of impeachment based on abuse of power.
2. Was found by the Supreme Court to have been abusing his position to subvert the election process
in a manner that created more safe "black" seats. Deval Patrick has resigned.
BRUCE BABBIT:
1. Paid a penalty for violating campaign finance laws during his 1988 presidential campaign.
2. Accepted political donations as a bribe to kill an Indian casino proposal. The DOJ is considering
appointing an Independent Counsel to investigate the bribe.
VALERIE LAU:
1. Started a criminal probe of Secret Service agents John Libonati and Jeffrey Undercoffer after they
had testified that the Secret Service was not the source of the list used to compile FBI files in the
Filegate scandal.
2. Provided confidential depositions of White House staffers to White House Counsel Lloyd Cutler
ahead of Whitewater hearings in 1994.
HOWARD SHAPIRO:
1. Leaked information to the White House Counsel's office that FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene had
revealed in a confidential FBI interview that it was Hillary Clinton who hired Filegate operative
Craig Livingstone.
HAZEL O'LEARY:
1. Accepted $25,000 from Johnny Chung in return for meeting with members of the Chinese
Government.
2. Paid outside consultants to prepare a list of "hostile reporters."
ERIC HOLDER:
1. As U.S. Attorney stonewalled repeated criminal referrals of Clinton administration employees by
courts of law and by Congress. Eric Holder was rewarded with a promotion to Deputy Attorney
General.
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ANTHONY LAKE:
1. Gave the green light to an illegal arms pipeline from Iran to Bosnia. The pipeline was reportedly
used to smuggle drugs.
2. Lied to Congress about the illegal pipeline. Anthony Lake withdrew his name from consideration
for director of the CIA.
JOHN HUANG:
1. Committed espionage on behalf of Lippo Group and the Chinese government.
2. Facilitated payments from the Chinese government to Bill Clinton and the DNC through Charlie
Trie and others. John Huang has resigned and is refusing to testify to Congressional investigators.
Summary: The only Clinton Cabinet Secretaries who are not under investigation for criminal acts and
have never had criminal allegations raised against them in public are Richard Riley, Secretary of
Education, and Madeleine Albright, Secretary of State.
Published in the Oct. 27, 1997 issue of The Washington Weekly Copyright 1997 The Washington
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• 26 separate lawyers on the Clinton Defense team (most presidents have 3-4)</font>
• $2 million in tax money to pay for these lawyers</font>
• 37 separate visits with Lewinsky after she left her job the White House</font>
• 7 travel office agents wrongly fired</font>
• 75 - known illegal calls made by Algore</font>
• $20,000 - Roger Clinton's one time drug debt</font>
• 40 days -the amount of time that Bill Clinton spent behind the "Iron Curtain" with communist in 1969</font>
• $1 trillion - estimated cost of Clinton health care in just a few years</font>
• $50,000 - $150,000 - approx. price of a coffee break with the president</font>
• $150,000 + - price of a night in the Lincoln bedroom
  </font>
• 100 - approx. number of confirmed fund-raiser coffee breaks</font>
• 938 supporters spent the night at the White House</font>
• $25 million - contributions raised by coffee events</font>
• $200 - price of Clinton's haircut while holding up traffic at LA International airport.</font>
• $1,000 - approx. amount Hillary invested in cattle futures.</font>
• $100,000 - amount Hillary "earned" in the same cattle futures in a little over a year.</font>
• $14,600 - Clintons owed this amount in back taxes from 1980 (paid for in 1994</font>
• $452,000 - amount of illegal contributions from the Lippo group to the DNC</font>
• 7 independent counsels - one for Clinton and six for his cabinet</font>
• 0 surgeon generals between 1995 and early 1998</font>
• 94 - the number of Clinton associates who have (1) fled the country or (2) directlyrefused to answer questions when testifying about Clinton scandals.
  (See the list http://www.house.gov/reform/oversight/finance/fled.htm source: ABC Nightline)</font>
• 17 - The number of those above who fled the country</font>
• 0 - the amount of credibility of Clinton after testifying</font>
• $40 million - cost of Clinton's trip to China in 1998</font>
• 9 days, the length of the stay in communist China</font>
• 1,000+ number who came to China with Clinton</font>
• 11 - Counts of impeachable offenses found in Starr's report</font>
• 31 Democrats who voted to begin formal impeachment proceedings</font>
• 2 Articles of Impeachment passed by the House</font>
• 45% of the Senate vote guaranteed to acquit long before the trial even started</font>
• 45 Senators who place allegiance to a scumbag above the rule of law Crime Stats:</font>
• Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who
  have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47 Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33</font>
• Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61</font>
• Number of imprisonments: 14</font>
• Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fledthe country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122</font>
• $20,000 - the amount of vandalism done to the White House by the clinton administration right before the left</font>
• 150,000 - the value of White House property taken by the clintons</font>
• Conspired with David Hale and Jim McDougal to defraud the Small Business Administration of $300,000.</font>
• Used State Police for personal purposes.</font>
• Abused his position as governor to extort sexual favors from employees.</font>
• Directed State Police to fabricate incriminating evidence against political opponents: Steve Clark, Terry Reed, and Larry Nichols.</font>
• Knew about drug importation and distribution by a friend and campaign contributor, Dan Lasater.</font>
• Allowed drug money to be laundered through ADFA.</font>
• Appointed and protected Arkansas Medical Examiner Fahmy Malak who repeatedly obstructed justice by declaring murders as "suicides" or "accidents."</font>
• Has never accounted for his actions during 40 days behind the Iron Curtain during the Vietnam War.</font>
• Tipped off Governor Tucker about upcoming criminal referral.</font>
• Violated Arkansas campaign finance laws.</font>
• Violated the Constitution by signing into law an ex post facto law, a retroactive tax increase.</font>
• Fired RTC chief Albert Casey to allow his friend Roger Altman to monitor and block Whitewater investigations.</font>
• Fired FBI director William Sessions and the entire top management at the FBI to prevent an autonomous FBI from investigating the suicide of Vince Foster and other scandals.</font>
• Fired all U.S. Attorneys to appoint Paula Casey who prevented Judge David Hale from testifying against Clinton.</font>
• Offered State Troopers federal jobs in return for their silence about Clinton's crimes.</font>
• Blocked Justice Department indictments after Inspector General Sherman Funk found "criminal violations of the Privacy Act provable beyond reasonable doubt" when former Bush employee files were searched and leaked to the press.</font>
• Appointed friend and felon Webster Hubbell to number 3 position in Justice Department in order to be able to block Whitewater criminal referrals by RTC investigator L. Jean Lewis.</font>
• Blocked the criminal trial of Representative Ford, a Tennessee Democrat.</font>
• Appointed a campaign activist to head the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, without the mandated "advice and consent" of the Senate, to derail a probe of his and Hillary's financial dealings.</font>
• Committed witness tampering by causing bribes to be paid to Webster Hubbell.</font>
• Committed witness tampering by causing a job with the NSC to be offered to former Trooper L.D. Brown in return for Brown's silence on several Clinton crimes.</font>
• Rifled through L.D. Brown's personnel file at the CIA in an attempt to find damaging information on Brown, a witness to many Clinton crimes.</font>
• Blocked Justice Department prosecution of Arthur Coia, a union Mob puppet and heavy Clinton donor.</font>
• Made fund-raising calls from the White House, a federal property.</font>
• Accepted a bribe from the Government of China, hidden from federal election inspectors by laundering it through Ng Lap Seng, the Bank of China, Charlie Trie and his relatives, and his Legal Defense Fund.</font>
• Accepted a $50,000 bribe from the candidate for president of South Korea, in return for a written endorsement of the candidate.
  Engaged in a criminal scheme to launder illegal contributions for the president of Teamsters campaign and in turn laundered illegal foreign contributions through the "Teamsters for a Corruption Free Union" fund.</font>
• Subverted federal campaign spending limits through a DNC slush fund used for television advertising planned by political consultant Dick Morris. Bill Clinton is under investigation by an Independent Counsel and by Congress.</font>
• Lied under oath to a grand jury.</font>
• Found guily by Judge Susan Weber (a Democrat & former student of clinton) of contempt of court for his "willful failure" to obey her repeated orders to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit.</font>
• Struck a deal with Mr Ray to spare the president from criminal charges the day before he left office in January 2001.</font>
• Was required to testify for the official record that he "knowingly gave evasive and misleading answers".</font>

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Former US President Bill Clinton could have been charged - and might have been convicted - over his attempts to cover up his affair with Monica Lewinsky, the special prosecutor has concluded.
Robert Ray - who took over from Kenneth Starr as independent counsel - said there was sufficient evidence the president had obstructed the inquiry into the scandal surrounding him and the former White House intern.

Mr Clinton's lawyers struck a deal with Mr Ray to spare the president from criminal charges the day before he left office in January 2001.

Mr Ray's report was released by a three-member panel of federal appeals court judges who appointed him and his predecessor Mr Starr to investigate the president and his wife in 1994.

The report - which was required by law - said: "The independent counsel concluded that sufficient evidence existed to prosecute and that such evidence would 'probably be sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction... by an unbiased trier of fact'."

Mr Ray said he decided against prosecution on the grounds that "non-criminal alternatives" were sufficient.

But in the report, he concluded: "President Clinton's offences had a significant adverse impact on the community, substantially affecting the public's view of the integrity of our legal system.

"President Clinton admitted he 'knowingly gave evasive and misleading' answers" about his sexual relationship with Ms Lewinsky.

The day before President George W Bush was inaugurated, Mr Clinton agreed to surrender his licence to practise law for five years as part of the deal with Mr Ray.

Monica Lewinsky was 21 when she met the President.

He admitted he made false statements under oath when questioned about his relationship with Ms Lewinsky during a hearing into his alleged sexual harassment of Paula Jones.

The report said: "President Clinton engaged in conduct that impeded the due administration of justice by testifying falsely under oath... that he could not recall ever being alone with Monica Lewinsky; and he had not had a sexual affair or engaged in sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1858677.stm

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[Batcivic]

sheesh. I should have waited to get to a computer instead of reading that on my pda. I usually, while not acknowledging their spew, turn these arguments into a discussion on why we should limit governtment. Use their arguments to make them think philosophically deeper. Liberal arguments fall apart when you have to think deeper than a five year old. And thanks for the info. If you don't mind I'd like to print it. (wish I could keep it in my wallet.)
We can throw stones and rumors at each other all day. You can't beat people who ignore facts with facts. Its really hard but some of them are capable of thought. The Kucinich's and hollywood etc forget it. The majority of voters however have to earn a living

[La Chevelure]

Unbelievable. The Clintons are such scumbags, it's mindblowing.