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11-05-2002, 08:14 PM
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Hey everyone! Wonderful to finally find a Conservative haven where I'm surrounded by people who think Ronald Reagan is the best President ever. It's about time!
I need some help, if anyone can provide a link: I need proof about ARAIPOTUS turning down Osama bin Laden as an offered prisoner twice. I was trying to find a link, but I wanted to show it to a lib who doesn't believe me. Thanks! 
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11-05-2002, 08:28 PM
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First, welcome Radical Right! [img]graemlins/hello.gif[/img]
No Problem on your request either... [img]graemlins/lazy.gif[/img]
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<h2><font color=#003399>Osama On Plate?</font></h2>
Here's a great question: "What do you think of a president who fails to act on or raise security concerns about a public safety threat from a known, active terrorist?" Yes, that's a great question to ask of Bill Clinton, not George W. Bush. Remember, the Sudanese government offered to hand Clinton Osama bin Laden's head on a silver platter, and Clinton didn't want him. If you want to play the blame game, there you go.
The Clinton administration knew that bin Laden was responsible for several murderous attacks on Americans, and they knew thanks to the 1993 blast that these people wanted to destroy the World Trade Center. Clinton never even went to the site of that first attack. Mr. Clinton did launch missiles at aspirin factories and empty terrorist camps during the Monica Lewinsky grand jury proceedings, but the goal there was to distract the people's attention from Monica Lewinsky's testimony, not to get bin Laden.
What did Clinton know and when did he know it? Why did he turn down Osama? Why isn't the media looking into this versus looking into Bush, who is supposed to be a mind reader, upon learning that some guys are taking flight lessons who happen to be Arab and they might hijack an airplane. Clinton had the perpetrator handed to him on a silver platter and said, "No." Clinton doesn't deny the offer was made. Sandy Berger admits the offer was made, but claims that they didn't have a legal basis for accepting the Sudanese offer.
What If... Bill Clinton Had Taken Osama
Here we have an informed and deliberate act by a president, Bill Clinton, to allow Osama bin Laden to escape. If we're going to play gotcha, then I want to know why the FAA didn't change the security procedures at airports - including what passengers can bring on airlines. Remember, security did not fail that day, because there was no law against bringing box cutters onboard. In fact, I want to know why Linda Daschle - the wife of Tom Daschle and the former deputy FAA administrator under Clinton - didn't change those procedures.
Could it be they didn't anticipate the kind of unprecedented attack that occurred on 9-11 any more than Mr. Bush did? Could it be that they too, after 10 years without a single U.S. hijacking, had the lack of psychic powers that made it impossible to foresee four planes being hijacked and flown into our greatest buildings at the same time? There are a lot of people to whom we can ask a lot of questions. Of course, they're not going to be asked.
The liberal media is more than happy to receive this information about Bush's lack of psychic powers and publish it with screaming headlines. But there is a fact that there is no getting around: 9-11 could have been avoided if Bill Clinton, while president, had accepted the Sudanese offer to turn over bin Laden. Any president who knowingly acts in this way merits severe criticism, or maybe even an investigation. Yet the same media that clamors over these selective leaks against Bush, are silent when it comes to Clinton's intentional decision not to act.
Now, I am not saying Bill Clinton is responsible. But the press and the Democrats are tying to focus all of this on Bush, and they're trying to fit it back into their original template: he's incompetent, illegitimately elected and not suited for the presidency. All I'm saying is, Bill Clinton was offered the man behind the attacks during his administration and did not accept him. Bin Laden could be behind bars in this country, today.
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Full Story <font color="red"><u>Here</u></font>
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<h2><font color=#003399>Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize</font></h2>
By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration.
I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief.
President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.
Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia or, barring that, to "baby-sit" him--monitoring all his activities and associates.
Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri, considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks; Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's personal secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya; and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out the embassy attacks.
The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque as did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed Salim's bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.
In July 2000--three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings.
A senior counter-terrorism official from one of the United States' closest Arab allies--an ally whose name I am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal after telling me he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism officials.
The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to personally request Bin Laden's extradition.
But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.
Mansoor Ijaz, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, is chairman of a New York-based investment company.
Full Story <font color="red"><u>Here</u></font>
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11-05-2002, 08:41 PM
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Thanks, Finman! 
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11-05-2002, 09:05 PM
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FINMAN IS THE WIZARD OF REGURGITATING FACTS!!!!
He was the inspiration for the show "John Doe".
Awesome job Finman!
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11-05-2002, 09:05 PM
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Thanks, Finman!
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Not a problem. :cool:
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